Satanic Vatican

I tripped across another blogger's page a few days ago discussing the "Austrian Bishop supports call to disobedience" and was inspired to comment on the article. Below I am recounting the comments and have separated out my responses to make it easier on the eyes.

Brantigny writes: "Disobedience comes from pride."

I answered: "Disobedience can come from pride. But it can also come from a realization and awakening through gnosis, that things are stagnant. The world is changing and Christianity has changed with it through time. The All is constant but our human hearts need to soften up from all the self-imposed dogma and see the light that's trying to shine through from Him to us."

 

He responded: "I have looked at your profile and it confirmed that which I read. You have gnostic point of view. We will shall have to part with ideas there.

Christ founded his Church on the Rock of Saint Peter, gave the apsotles the facility to forgive sin (or not) and began the line of succession for the head of His Church. This is the beginning of the Church. Straying (disobediance)from the Church's teaching puts one outside HIS Church. The Church remains constant, God never changes his mind, therefore what he has revealed remains the same. Disobediance to the faith therefore is disobediance to God.

This Bishop is the most basic essence has placed himself out side the Church, and by extention an anti-Christ.

This is what s meant by Ex Eclesia, nulli salus. Outside the Church there is no salvation.

The Bishop has sworn a vow, that is, not to the Pope but to GOD that he will be obediant. If I were going to break a promise it would not be to God. Lastly, The Church is not a democracy nor is it a cafeteria where one can pick a disciple or an obediance, or a doctine not to follow and those you choose to follow.

Jhesu+Marie,

Brantigny

I wrote back: 

 

Keeping that 'obedience' in mind, watch this documentary on just what a beautiful past the Catholic church has professed and the satanic idolatry which lies at it's very heart:


(Over four hours long)

Yes, we'll disagree about dogma vs. freedom, Brantigny. I'll keep my freedom to enjoy God's direct lessons on love and morality. I don't need someone who is just as human as I am to dictate to me what is right or wrong. I prefer to go directly The Man Himself and bypass any misunderstandings in interpretation along the way.

I find something so perplexingly beautiful about gnosis in that no matter what century, no matter what language one uses, and no matter what level of understanding one has before searching directly for gnosis we all find that He teaches the same thing: Love. Cohesion. Marriage of the heart and soul with Him. To enjoy beauty in not just the earth but to search for the beauty in others because we recognize that divine connection in them. We celebrate it because we recognize that we are all One in spirit.

What is cohesive and loving is not bad. What professes to teach a human being to grow into an adult relationship with Him and not keep us children forever shouldn't be so scary that one should feel they have to run toward strict dogma because it is so much simpler to understand and practice. But that is the way most literalists feel. It's so much easier to believe than it is to reach out and hold the actual truth with both hands. It's so much less terrifying to go the easy road and sit, kneel, stand, sit, kneel, stand, etc.

The Beloved I love isn't archaic and dry and bent on forcing me into a mold. He lifts me up and teaches me to smile; showing me things I've never considered before. He shows me my errors and shows me in what ways he is proud of me. It's never hateful or judgmental, it is always gentle and understanding.

Please don't judge gnosis to be something to be brushed off. You're going to find that with the Nag Hammadi codices being published now for quite a few years, you're going to hear a lot more about us. The Vatican is tearing itself apart inside and for good reason: the truth will out. They can't keep up appearances any longer because the public is more discerning and knowledgeable.

I wish you all the best,

Angel

I fully expected that he'd ignore my comment and delete it. But no, shockingly, he did post it and then responded with:

"Listen Angel, fisrt and as sincerly as I possibly can say with out hate in may heart, I never agree to disagree. I write the truth. Obediance to the Church is disobediance to evil. Satan has furnished this idea that the Church founded by Christ Himself is inherently evil because it is not a democracy, of people can not choose this or that and pick and choose which dogmas to believe or to reject. Unfortunatly this is a rejection of Christ in its fullest form.

I think I wrote before this is post hoc ergo propter hoc pilosophy, meaning that because Catholic do this or that it must therefor be evil.

I think you will find the Vatican is in better shape than you think. It has lasted since Constantine, that is a long road to go.

One last thing I want to bring up since the 31st of October is the anniversary of the Reformation. It is also Samhain the pagan feast ot the dead. So my point is don't read into any statues and ritual as being from satan in the church, take it for what it is said to be.

Pax Domine,

Brantigny

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I had to read his message quite a few times before the full scope of what he'd said sank into my brain. Did he not watch and read what I just did? The Luciferian motif within the Catholic Church is so blatant they're smacking people in the face with it while calling people forward to run on up and get their sacramental wine. I've already sworn off aspartame and high fructose corn syrup, I just don't think Jesus Juice is the way to go anymore. My communion with the divine is just that- divine! It is one-on-one, beautiful, fulfilling, and there's no need to get fruit involved in it or priests who can't keep their wandering hands to themselves.

The Reformation 'coincidence' in the calendar just makes me shake my head. So the Pope has an upside-down cross carved into his throne, carries a Satanic figure on his staff, wears a pagan symbol/shaped hat which is encrusted with jewels while the majority of his flock are just about starving to death. Phft. You couldn't get me to bend down on my dimpled knees to that man if my ass was on fire and he held the last cup of water on Earth.

Bishop + Family = Shameful Hush Money?

Blog author's comments below article.

Catholic bishop resigns, admits he has 2 kids

Archdiocese of Los Angeles assistant bishop had a secret family in another state

updated 1/4/2012 11:16:46 AM ET

VATICAN CITY — An assistant bishop of the Roman Catholic archdiocese of Los Angeles has resigned because he has a secret family, including two teenage children.

The Vatican said on Wednesday that Pope Benedict had accepted the resignation of Gabino Zavala, an auxiliary bishop of the diocese which has been plagued by sexual scandals.

A brief Vatican announcement did not give the reason for Zavala's resignation, saying only that the pope had accepted it under the norm in canon (Church law) that says a bishop who is ill or otherwise unfit to carry out his duties should resign.

But Zavala's direct superior, Los Angeles Archbishop Jose Gomez, has prepared a letter for the faithful in the archdiocese explaining the circumstances of the departure of Zavala, who was assistant bishop for the San Gabriel region of California.

In the letter, a draft of which was obtained from a Catholic Church source in Rome, Gomez said Zavala, 60, had informed him in early December that he was the father of two teenage children who live with their mother in another state.

The Catholic Church demands celibacy from its priests.

"Bishop Zavala also told me that he submitted his resignation to the Holy Father in Rome, which was accepted. Since that time, he has not been in ministry and will be living privately," Gomez says in the letter.

"The Archdiocese has reached out to the mother and children to provide spiritual care as well as funding to assist the children with college costs. The family's identity is not known to the public, and I wish to respect their right to privacy," the letter says.

Gomez asked for prayers "for all those impacted by this situation and for each other as we reflect on this letter."

Zavala's resignation under a cloud was the latest headache for the diocese, which paid a $660 million settlement in 2007 for cases of sexual abuse going as far back at the 1940.

Zavala was also the latest Catholic Church official who was found to have had a secret family.

The late leader of the Legionaries of Christ religious order, Father Marcial Maciel, who died in 2008 at the age of 87, lived a double life for decades that was not discovered until after his death.

Maciel, a Mexican, was found to have abused seminarians. He was also discovered to have had a mistress with whom he had fathered several children.

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My most immediate concern with this situation was money.

"Since that time, he has not been in ministry and will be living privately," Gomez says in the letter.

Living privately. And supporting himself privately? Really? And then we learn that the Church is putting together a college fund for this bishop's children?! I am all for compassion but why exactly should faithful followers of the Church pay for this man's illegitimate(in his ex-employer's view) children? If I was one of those faithful I'd be frothing at the mouth mad. Compassion doesn't mean rolling over and handing people hush money. Not that it'd help in this case. The story would have gotten out any way. I do not understand the Catholic sense of 'compassion' here. Is it to make sure the kids don't get on the news circuit to tell what it was like having a bishop as a father?

Another commenter to this article states: "So, a bishop who has consensual sex with an adult resigns. Priests who rape children are allowed to continue being priests. Really?"

Someone else responded with, "Celibacy, was instituted in the 4th century, to keep the clergy from gathering wealth to pass on to their family's and children, thus depriving the Church of it's revenue; it is out of date and must be changed; the Vatican has now allowed married pastors of other faiths to convert to Catholic and become Catholic priests and remain married; if the Catholic Church wants to exist in the next century it will do away with celibacy."

Hear hear! Get your grove on and then get into the organization of your choice! (sarcasm) But I agree that the celibacy yoke needs to be removed from their requirements. If you're in a position of authority over people's souls(supposedly) then why put this sort of stipulation in the job contract which most people can't keep to? I think it is a recipe for failure by its very nature. Celibacy should be a private choice, not part of a job contract.